EXISTING mental health care services in Australia are ânot going to cut it in the 21st centuryâ but health information technologies offer a way forward thatâs fit for purpose, according to one of the co-designers of an innovative new online platform.
Professor Ian Hickie, co-Director, Health and Policy of the University of Sydneyâs Brain and Mind Centre, told InSight+ in an exclusive podcast that Project Synergy, an online platform designed âto test the potential of new and emerging technologies to enhance the quality of mental health care provided by traditional face-to-face servicesâ, was an extension of what had been happening in youth mental health over the past decade.
âWe are still using 20th century approaches to a 21st century problem,â Professor Hickie said.
âWeâre still trying to build clinics and offices and services through GPs, through psychologists, through psychiatrists, through peer workers, through lay workers to try and meet this tremendous unmet need for services â quality service, not just any service.
âMany, many people have serious problems with suicidality, substance abuse, emerging major mental illness, who need real care, ongoing quality care, and cannot have that need met by current services or the way that weâre trying to currently grow those services through traditional profession-based clinics,â he said.
In a Supplement published by the MJA, Professor Hickie and his colleagues described four trials of Project Synergy conducted in different populations of young people (i) attending university; (ii) in three disadvantaged communities in New South Wales; (iii) at risk of suicide; and (iv) attending five headspace centres.
âPeople can put in their information. They can track their progress. They can participate. They can have choices,â Professor Hickie told InSight+.
âNot all clinical services are up to that. Many clinical services are very top down. The funny thing is, people say that people wonât provide information.
âYou bet they will if itâs about themselves getting a better service. In fact, they are dying to tell services, âI have many needs, not just oneâ.
â[Project Synergy] allows those needs to be expressed, essentially to say to services: âYou need to get your act together either within your own service or in partnership with other services to meet these needsâ.
âItâs very challenging to the service environment to go down this road. Youâre not just dealing with a passive user of services. Youâre suddenly dealing with an empowered and articulate user of services, saying: âHey, Iâve got a bunch of needs. I have a mental health problem, a substance abuse problem, an employment problem. Can you help? Iâve got a physical health problem to boot. Can you help with this range of problems? Can we agree what I do, what you do, who else needs to be involved to start to deal with these issues?ââ
Project Synergy sprang from a background of what was already happening in the youth mental health area over the past decade, Professor Hickie told InSight+.
âThe Young and Well Cooperative Research Centre set up by Professor Jane Burns and colleagues at the University of Melbourne and here in the University of Sydney was working on youth mental health developments in web-based services for young people for suicide prevention and mental health.
â[From that] there was a realisation by first the Abbott government and then the Turnbull government that the implications were far greater than just youth mental health.
âThere is the potential to overcome issues related to quality service provision for veterans, for people living in rural and regional Australia, for children, for adults, for all people.
âThat led to an investment by the Turnbull government out of the 2016 election in developing this platform further and testing this platform further in a variety of different settings â continuing the work in youth mental health but actually extending way beyond that.â
Professor Hickie told InSight+ that the perception that only young people used digital technologies was a fallacy.
âNothing could be further from the truth,â he said.
âTechnology is used by everyone from very young ages right through. In fact, those who are more isolated, disabled, less able to participate, actually rely more on technology now [than ever before].
âMany of the problems weâve had connecting to people with mental health problems through distance, through disability, through other geographical or economically based barriers and cultural based barriers, can be overcome with technology.â
In an editorial accompanying the Supplement, Professor Hickie wrote about the âuberisationâ of mental health care â âthe utilisation of âa business model in which services are offered on demand through direct contact between a customer and a supplier, usually via mobile technologyââ.
âThe assumption is that in health care [uberisation] canât happen; that the hospitals, the doctors, the operating theatres, the clinics, the regulation around safety of care would mean that such a thing could not happen in the health care industry,â he told InSight+.
âIn my view, technologies will disrupt many areas of health, and one of the first and most profound is going to be in mental health.
âIn fact, itâs already happening because these transformations, these major disruptions happen in situations where thereâs community demand that is not being met by the existing services. Either the size of the demand or the quality offering is not matching the community desire or need for that service. And that is absolutely the case with mental health, not just in Australia but worldwide.â
Professor Hickie said a stumbling block had been the perception that the âtherapeutic relationshipâ was predicated on face-to-face contact.
âHistorically, the personal approach to mental health care has said itâs the personal interaction that matters. Thatâs despite the fact that weâve had evidence since the 1990s that people quite like talking to computers.
âComputers donât frown, they donât fall asleep, theyâre available 24/7, and when it comes to the therapeutic effect, at least for common problems like anxiety and depression, the efficacy of the intervention seems to be as good through the computer interface as it is in the person-to-person situation.
âThe notion that a person â the one who is only there 9-to-5, the one who costs a lot of money to see and is only available in the middle of a large city when youâre living in rural or regional Australia â that somehow that theme is the gold standard, is the belief system of the earliest 20th century.
âWeâve had good evidence since the 1980s that automated interfaces, skills-based teaching from automated interfaces may well be highly effective. Itâs not the same, but it may well be highly effective. Unfortunately, itâs one of those areas of health care where historical and cultural practice and beliefs about it often donât match the evidence.â
Professor Hickie hopes that in 5 yearsâ time, innovations like Project Synergy will be widespread through Australian health care, fully supported by governments and insurers.
âIf you were running a service that did not have this capability, youâd be running a 20th century service in the 21st century,â he said.
âYouâd be running an old taxi in the era of Uber. Youâd be running an old hotel in the era of Airbnb. Basically, you should go out of business.
âIn our area, I think governments and funders should be saying, âthatâs just not good enough anymore â itâs not empowering, itâs not engaging, it doesnât actually deliver the style of care that is high quality and more equitable when we have a better option available.
âWhat Iâd like to see in 5 to 10 years is a dramatic improvement in the accessibility and quality of services as a consequence of using these technologies, so that we all get off our bottoms and deliver better care at scale.â
Professor Ian Hickie, co-Director, Health and Policy of the University of Sydneyâs Brain and Mind Centre, told InSight+ in an exclusive podcast that Project Synergy, an online platform designed âto test the potential of new and emerging technologies to enhance the quality of mental health care provided by traditional face-to-face servicesâ, was an extension of what had been happening in youth mental health over the past decade.
âWe are still using 20th century approaches to a 21st century problem,â Professor Hickie said.
âWeâre still trying to build clinics and offices and services through GPs, through psychologists, through psychiatrists, through peer workers, through lay workers to try and meet this tremendous unmet need for services â quality service, not just any service.
âMany, many people have serious problems with suicidality, substance abuse, emerging major mental illness, who need real care, ongoing quality care, and cannot have that need met by current services or the way that weâre trying to currently grow those services through traditional profession-based clinics,â he said.
In a Supplement published by the MJA, Professor Hickie and his colleagues described four trials of Project Synergy conducted in different populations of young people (i) attending university; (ii) in three disadvantaged communities in New South Wales; (iii) at risk of suicide; and (iv) attending five headspace centres.
âPeople can put in their information. They can track their progress. They can participate. They can have choices,â Professor Hickie told InSight+.
âNot all clinical services are up to that. Many clinical services are very top down. The funny thing is, people say that people wonât provide information.
âYou bet they will if itâs about themselves getting a better service. In fact, they are dying to tell services, âI have many needs, not just oneâ.
â[Project Synergy] allows those needs to be expressed, essentially to say to services: âYou need to get your act together either within your own service or in partnership with other services to meet these needsâ.
âItâs very challenging to the service environment to go down this road. Youâre not just dealing with a passive user of services. Youâre suddenly dealing with an empowered and articulate user of services, saying: âHey, Iâve got a bunch of needs. I have a mental health problem, a substance abuse problem, an employment problem. Can you help? Iâve got a physical health problem to boot. Can you help with this range of problems? Can we agree what I do, what you do, who else needs to be involved to start to deal with these issues?ââ
Project Synergy sprang from a background of what was already happening in the youth mental health area over the past decade, Professor Hickie told InSight+.
âThe Young and Well Cooperative Research Centre set up by Professor Jane Burns and colleagues at the University of Melbourne and here in the University of Sydney was working on youth mental health developments in web-based services for young people for suicide prevention and mental health.
â[From that] there was a realisation by first the Abbott government and then the Turnbull government that the implications were far greater than just youth mental health.
âThere is the potential to overcome issues related to quality service provision for veterans, for people living in rural and regional Australia, for children, for adults, for all people.
âThat led to an investment by the Turnbull government out of the 2016 election in developing this platform further and testing this platform further in a variety of different settings â continuing the work in youth mental health but actually extending way beyond that.â
Professor Hickie told InSight+ that the perception that only young people used digital technologies was a fallacy.
âNothing could be further from the truth,â he said.
âTechnology is used by everyone from very young ages right through. In fact, those who are more isolated, disabled, less able to participate, actually rely more on technology now [than ever before].
âMany of the problems weâve had connecting to people with mental health problems through distance, through disability, through other geographical or economically based barriers and cultural based barriers, can be overcome with technology.â
In an editorial accompanying the Supplement, Professor Hickie wrote about the âuberisationâ of mental health care â âthe utilisation of âa business model in which services are offered on demand through direct contact between a customer and a supplier, usually via mobile technologyââ.
âThe assumption is that in health care [uberisation] canât happen; that the hospitals, the doctors, the operating theatres, the clinics, the regulation around safety of care would mean that such a thing could not happen in the health care industry,â he told InSight+.
âIn my view, technologies will disrupt many areas of health, and one of the first and most profound is going to be in mental health.
âIn fact, itâs already happening because these transformations, these major disruptions happen in situations where thereâs community demand that is not being met by the existing services. Either the size of the demand or the quality offering is not matching the community desire or need for that service. And that is absolutely the case with mental health, not just in Australia but worldwide.â
Professor Hickie said a stumbling block had been the perception that the âtherapeutic relationshipâ was predicated on face-to-face contact.
âHistorically, the personal approach to mental health care has said itâs the personal interaction that matters. Thatâs despite the fact that weâve had evidence since the 1990s that people quite like talking to computers.
âComputers donât frown, they donât fall asleep, theyâre available 24/7, and when it comes to the therapeutic effect, at least for common problems like anxiety and depression, the efficacy of the intervention seems to be as good through the computer interface as it is in the person-to-person situation.
âThe notion that a person â the one who is only there 9-to-5, the one who costs a lot of money to see and is only available in the middle of a large city when youâre living in rural or regional Australia â that somehow that theme is the gold standard, is the belief system of the earliest 20th century.
âWeâve had good evidence since the 1980s that automated interfaces, skills-based teaching from automated interfaces may well be highly effective. Itâs not the same, but it may well be highly effective. Unfortunately, itâs one of those areas of health care where historical and cultural practice and beliefs about it often donât match the evidence.â
Professor Hickie hopes that in 5 yearsâ time, innovations like Project Synergy will be widespread through Australian health care, fully supported by governments and insurers.
âIf you were running a service that did not have this capability, youâd be running a 20th century service in the 21st century,â he said.
âYouâd be running an old taxi in the era of Uber. Youâd be running an old hotel in the era of Airbnb. Basically, you should go out of business.
âIn our area, I think governments and funders should be saying, âthatâs just not good enough anymore â itâs not empowering, itâs not engaging, it doesnât actually deliver the style of care that is high quality and more equitable when we have a better option available.
âWhat Iâd like to see in 5 to 10 years is a dramatic improvement in the accessibility and quality of services as a consequence of using these technologies, so that we all get off our bottoms and deliver better care at scale.â
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